Step 8: Stomp Out Negative Thoughts

“I will never meet anyone else…”

“I can’t live without this person…”

“This keeps happening, what is wrong with me?”

“I’m not [smart, good, pretty, whatever] enough…”

Sound familiar?

Some psychologists have called the repeating negative voice “the gremlin”. Others describe it as a radio station playing a recurring song of self-limiting beliefs. After a break up, some of us obsess about what happened during the break-up- something he or she said, the place of the break up, the reasons we think it happened. And some of us obsess about ourselves including thoughts about what we look like, what we act like, or something we think is deficient within ourselves.

Recurring negative thoughts embed themselves in our subconscious and no matter how far from the truth they may be, these thoughts become our reality. Luckily, we can change this reality. In fact, in order to move forward from our heartbreak and heartache, we must change this reality. So, take those negative thoughts and stomp them out!

stompout negative thoughts with positive thoughts

Exercise: Just asking yourself to ‘stop’ the negative thoughts generally is not sufficient enough to make that happen. To change your thinking, write out your recurring, negative thought and then flip it into a more realistic, positive thought. Why does this work? With enough repetition your mind starts referencing the positive thought instead of repeating the negative one. It’s kind of like reprogramming your system to release the negativity. You have the option to use the form below or feel free to use a journal. We recommend doing this step in your journal daily.

Examples: 1) I will never get over this pain – The more likely outcome is that it with effort, this feeling will pass. 2) I will never find anyone like him/her – The more likely outcome is with so many incredible, wonderful people in the world, sooner or later I will find the one.

Tip: Start Positive thoughts with – “The more likely outcome is…” or “That’s not true because…” or “A more accurate way of seeing this is…”


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Karolynn September 24, 2009 at 3:56 am

Hi all
Obviousley I am going through what you all are considering that it is 3:33 AM and I am not asleep. The funny thing is that until I had to see him today I was ok. It was like getting my heard broken all over again. Let me give you some background. We dated for almost a year he is 47 and I am 39. When we first met he told me that prior to meeting me he only dated older women who did not have kids at home-well I do they are 14 and 11. He knew this and still continued to date me-not only did he date me but he also gave me a promise ring and my kids adored him.. at first. As time went on he was over at my house often and he was making comments (away from the kids) that I should not have done this, or should not have done that as far as my disciplining of them (hello, I know my own kids and his ideas would not work for them) I told him I appriciated his advice but, I am their mother and I do know what is going to work better for them then he is. Fast forward the clock 6 mo later and according to him (it seems) I was not doing much of anything right (with my kids or life in general) he even went as far as telling me that I had to lock the door when I was in the shower (even in the morning when they were trying to get ready for school and me work) in the past we had a bathroom system that worked well and nobody saw anybody naked, but, that was not good enough and so when he was around.. bathroom door was locked. In June we went on a vacation.. due to his lack of funds I ended up paying for most of the trip-so 1 week and $1500 later we came back. We had discussed prior to trip that he was going to move after the trip since his lease was going to expire and I had been layed off since Feb. Well he moved in and everything changed, he did not help pay the bills and started making more and more rules-my home became a house of egg shells. My oldest son who cracks the door open when he is showing due to the steam (he gets congested easily) was told that he was no longer allowed to do that.. I told him that it was ok that he did as long as there was not company (he is 14 I think he knows when not to do that). So..he went to a coworker and got her opinion on it.. (which was mine) but I was lived that instead of respecting us and following our wishes he had to take a someone else’s advice. I let it go..but as time went on he became increasingly more ajitated about everything.. my 11 year was not even allowed to watch cartoons in the living room. After dealing with all this for over a month I finally exploded and he acted shocked (by this point he had belittled me several times in different areas, called my oldest son names and had a couple of times where he was a little physical with both the boys). After that things went down hill and instead of getting counseling he decided to just bail. I know that I am better off.. I just feel used and deceived.. I really thought he loved me and my kids.. he told me that if I did not have kids it would have worked, then he told me we are not compatable. His timing could not have been worse-I was waiting for my unemployment extension to come through and he was supposed to help me..have my back..and he bailed (I had no income for 2 weeks) after months of providing all the food, paying all the expenses and trying so hard to please him to no avail. I feel like I could have done everything perfect and he still would have found a reason to do this. I am licking my wounds and scratching my head all at the same time…any insight would help the healing process. Thanks

paula September 27, 2009 at 7:40 am

Count your blessings that you are away from him, continue to raise your kids just like you are doing and stay away from. Someone better will come along, I promise. I am presently in a similiar situation. I have to get ready for church so write me on spedteach67@yahoo.com if you need someone to talk to. I am here for you. SIngle with two kids, 16 and 14 and an older guy that just doesnt get it and we are on the edge of ending it……
Paula

Wendy September 27, 2009 at 2:43 pm

Hi….Tell me how life can change so quickly and completely? I see so many of us are trying to understand and adjust to losing someone we thought was going to always be there. My situation is a bit more complicated I guess…but the broken heart is real. I have been in a loveless marriage for a very long time (we are basically roomates that is all). I have been in a 9 year wonderful relationship with a really good, stable, loving man. We were (are?) best friends too. It has been a long distance one (175 miles apart), but it worked for us. He knew all about my situation at home. 7 weeks ago he came and told me: I can’t do this any more, I just don’t want us. There is nothing I/we can work on but he wants us to be friends. That day turned into an emotional meltdown (well I did)….6 hours of me falling apart as he listened and said little… Anyway…we speak, I write (he reads the emails but says little)..but he tells me he is moving ahead with his life. Very matter of fact. Just 3 weeks before the breakup we were in Niagara Falls have a wonderful romantic time…. Seems he has been unhappy for about a year. (who knew?). I have never been through this before. I have no children or family and few close friends. My world has is so very small now…and I have no real answers to why he made his decision. I went right into therapy (never done that before) and “it is official”…I am grieving…grieving the loss or him/me/us… So here I am stuck and seeing no future and sooner or later he will find another. Anyway….I appreciate the the space to vent…to be with people who understand how hard it is to “appear normal” when life is anything but. Sadness and helplessness is just beneath the surface. By the way…I did find a great book that helped: The Secret of Letting Go…Guy Finley. At least when I read it I get out of “panic mode”…logic settles back in for a bit. Maybe it will help you too. Hopefully the old saying: Time heals old wounds is true. Right now I just have a hard time believing it…

R September 28, 2009 at 12:28 pm

I have been married 3 times before and every time I was cheated on. By the third one I was so worn down and my self esteem was so low that I kept taking him back for 13 years. We have a child and that was part of it. The fights were so bad that at 6 yrs old my son finally said “oh mom just leave him!” It was horribly painful but I moved far away and within six months had fallen in love with a wonderful man who was 13 years younger than me. (I was 39 and he was 25) Foolish right? He was just coming out of a failed marriage and had little experience with women other than that. I loved that he was so loyal and not interested in seeing other people. It made me feel safe. He moved in with me right away because he needed a place to stay and he always paid half of the bills and food and although not particularly generous, he was fair and responsible. He told me from the beginning that he didn’t want to get married again. I didn’t either because I mine failed so miserably. I just wanted to be with someone and be happy. He promised not to cheat on me or to leave me for someone else. He too had plenty advice about how to raise my kids, but much of it was good and useful. He never got directly involved with discipline and would just give me advice after the fact. A lot of it helped and as a single mother I appreciated the insight. He is a singer songwriter and I played and sang back up for him. We traveled the US and the world and were very in love and had many great adventures. He is an environmentalist like me and is extremely brilliant and talented and the most beautiful man I’ve ever seen. We were best friends. After three years, he fell in love with a woman from his work (she never knew) but I knew from reading his journals. One day I broke down and told him that I had read them. he was very compassionate and forgiving and understood that with my history of marrying cheaters he understood. Yet he would bring it up at embarrassing moments and make a joke out of it which infuriated me even tough it was funny. That’s how we dealt with everything which is why I thought we would stay together. No matter how awful or embarrassing we would find a way to laugh at it. We both have that kind of sense of humor. He didn’t really know this woman except fo work an dthey were very different. She was young and beautiful. I told him he had to quit working there because it was wrong for him to go there and continue to be tempted by her if he wanted to be with me. He is rebellious and it was hard for him to agree on principle, but he finally agreed that I was right. I was embarrassed to be so insecure but I knew t was right and was glad he agreed. Some strange things happened when ever I would get sick he couldn’t stick around to take care of me. He would excuse himself and leave me alone so as not to get sick himself. He was oddly self absorbed but I am oddly other oriented… I think many women are. His career became my career and I invested all my time and money and love and expertise into managing, booking and promoting our band and creating websites and marketing… all the things that the artist themselves should not have to do. After 6 years of hard work on both our parts he won an award as best singer songwriter of our city. He deserved the title, but I know I was very much responsible due to a huge media and e mail campaign I had launched to gain the signatures required. His family lives 1000 miles away and he always missed them terribly. During our whole relationship he talked about moving home and how if it wasnt for me he would be living near his family. He grew more and more ill form an undiagnosed anxiety related illness… probably linked to his indecision about moving home or staying with me. his religion dictated that if he were going to live with a woman he should be married yet he was still afraid because of his first marriage being when he was so young. All the women across the world being enamored with him didn’t help his readiness to settle down, although he never took any of them up on it -the opportunity was always just around the corner. For the most part we were very happy. When he decided to move home with his family he said it was the hardest thing he had ever done. We talked and decided that we didn’t really need to break up… he was just going to go for a year and “get it out of his system”. He didn’t plan on seeing anyone… he wanted to take a year of celibacy… to get closer to god… we parted sad but hopeful that he would get his fill of his family and decide to come home free of his mysterious illness and ready to actually commit to me. I enrolled in school again to finish my degree and to keep occupied while he was on his Vision Quest (what we’ve been calling it.) After two months of phone calls every night and long talks about how he wished he were back home he informed me that he looked into his heart and decided that he wanted to see other people! He said he told me from the beginning that he didn’t want to be married and that he needed time to be single before he could decide if he wanted to be married. In theory this is understandable. But with my past experiences with infidelity I am triggered into total panic by the picture in my head of him with someone else. Online the next night I found a message to him from a girl. I fell apart and in a rage deleted all the websites and internet accounts I had set up for the band. I sent him an e mail with a song called You’re Just Somebody That I used to Know. Now I am afraid I have blown any chance of him deciding he wants to be with me. Yet at the same time I know I am now 46 and he is 32. Before he left, in his journal he wrote that I’m looking very old and maybe its time he went on his own. He’s just trying to get away from me now that I’m showing my age. He wasn’t even attracted to me when I wore plaid… let alone now that I am getting wrinkles. Very superficial and spiritual at the same time. Confusing as hell. Compassionate and sensitive but cruelly humorous and cold when I am ill. I am devastated and flunking out of school because I can’t concentrate. I spend my days crying in bed. I cant go shopping for food for my kid. I cant eat. I cant sleep. I am in constant pain. My love, my roommate, my partner, my career, my best friend, all are gone. I have no income or hope for the future. But Ive been here before. Each time it gets worse. I feel like I will eventually get cancer and die form this stress. I would welcome the relief but my kids need me. I am forced to endure the agony of living without the most wonderful man Ive ever known after spending six pretty wonderful years in bliss. With a life that had meaning and a future. Sure hes not that great. Hes only the most wonderful Ive ever known. Hes still just a man. A very confused very young man. Very immature and incapable of giving me what I need form a partner. I shouldn’t give him so much power.

mouse October 3, 2009 at 2:16 am

To Wendy:
I’m in a very similar situation to you and my lover has just met someone else and has ended things with me. He was all so keen and encouraging and lead me to believe we would always be lovers – I thought it could go on for years but we did manage 18 months and were very close the previous 18 months. I do have children – they have almost left home and are adults. I am so devastated – I can’t stop going over and over things. It seems he was unhappy with my situation (being married) but it wasn’t a problem to him in the beginning when he was so encouraging me to live for the moment. I find it so hard now when I see him (work) he can just treat me the same as anybody else and doesn’t pop his head round the door to ask if I’m OK – its those little things that can hurt so much. He says now – is it so unreasonable for him to want and enjoy a full relationship with someone? I do understand where he is coming from but it doesn’t stop the hurt I am feeling – he is the one I want and I can’t understand why he no longer wants me (he said I was still dear to him) – just because the new person in his life can give him what he wants more often than I can – is that what love is? I get so much pain in my heart even after 8 weeks – how long will I keep crying? Why can’t I move on? Its not easy at all to play cool, like I don’t care – yet I feel I should be bubbly and chatting and funny as I normally am – so he sees what he is missing – will that help? I so want him back – will he come back to me when he is finished with her? if only I knew? I don’t want to go through this again and I don’t intend seeing anybody else ever – its him and only him that I want.

mouse October 3, 2009 at 3:58 am

continued – to Wendy.

I’m the one that is married and feel that there is no-one to turn to – who can I tell? anybody will just think it serves me right and will not have any sympathy. And if I talk to somebody professional they are bound to say things I don’t want to hear. I want to know that there will be another chance with this man that I so love.
I feel so sorry for you not having many friends you can talk to – I know how I feel not being about to share this with anybody and its good I can write this down here – it does help a little. I will try and look for the book you mention – I think I need it. I’ve not been through a heart break before in my life so this is all new to me and I am surprised how I have reacted and how painful it all is. I never realised that it was actual pain in the heart that you feel – like being stabbed. And there have been things which have been said when it feels like that knife is turned a little bit more.
I’ve been with my husband for near on 30 years and my relationship with my lover has certainly been a wonderful experience which I shall never forget and want back so desperately. I hope you find something that helps to heal your heart and maybe you will pass on anything you discover that helps.
I did something very stupid last night – I drove to where I know his new lady friend lives and saw her house and car. It may sound like I’m a bunny boiler but I just want to see. I got my payback as on the way back I got dreadfully lost in the dark and started to panic! Luckily found a couple of young lads who directed me the right way and I got back safely. How stupid am I – but that’s what it does to you. I know my behaviour now is so erratic and my driving is dangerous – I need to chill out! take care with yourself …

betty October 4, 2009 at 1:22 pm

What you have described is identical behavior to what I was dealing with in my relationship. Undermining my authority with my own, becoming aggressive and more and more intolerant and agitated, especially if I EVER dared get upset. It compromised my relationship with my son, it compromised my self-esteem, and in the end, that was his synopsis of the whole relationship: we just weren’t compatible. I felt like screaming! I encouraged him over and over again to get some counseling to deal with his anger management issues, but as far as he was concerned, no one else out there should tell him how to live his life. He started even undermining my own authority over my own life – checking MY apartment doors to see if they were locked before we left, asking me over and over again if I’d turned my stove and coffee pot off, telling me he didn’t want me walking alone at night (I live in a small town and have ALWAYS felt safe), telling me who I needed to get rid of from my list of friends. I reached a point where I was constantly crying and feeling heartbroken. I’ve never been with anyone who tried to control me that much. It was draining and exhausting. And, the worst part is, I was madly, madly in love with him and still am, even though we’ve been broken up for six weeks. I still beg the universe to send him back to me. I miss his body and his smell and the feeling of him holding me. There are so many layers of different truths to the reality of any relationship. I haven’t forgotten all of the bad, but I hurt like hell remembering all the good.

Aoi October 5, 2009 at 4:57 pm

ohh….i feel so much pain dont you people remember the day or time or second you fell in love or the moment he or she said “I LOVE YOU” you feel theres no place in the world or no body that can make you this happy and thiers never ever going to be a breakup?….i felt that way….and on the same day…we broke up……..

Mary October 6, 2009 at 9:58 am

I hope what I am about to say will help all of you. And I’m sure it’s what you already know in your head, but your heart hasn’t got a brain and it keeps on begging for the comfort of the arms that used to hold it but don’t want it anymore.
I am in exactly the same position as you, however I went through six years of agony after my husband died and then again after I met the man I thought was Mr. Right. He was five years younger than me and I fell hopelessly in love with him, gave him my whole heart forever, and one year later he met another woman at work and broke it off with me and made me feel it was my fault.

He did come back, promising his undying love, saying he would make it up to me if it took him the rest of his life. Well things were wonderful for about three years, he retired, we moved to Dallas and all of a sudden he got kind of mean and controlling, (now he had me away from all my family and friends) and I found I was bending over backwards to please him, but it was rarely possible. Nothing I did was right. I had a feeling he wanted to end it but didn’t want to be the one to pull the trigger and I figured again there was another woman. When I mentioned that to him he went ballistic and put me on a plane home to Canada. That was a year and a half ago.

But again, a few months later he came back, things again were great. Then the same pattern started repeating and he walked out on me Sept 15th and went to Dallas alone. My heart is screaming with pain. Not only that but now I am 66 years old. (He is only 59) and I know underneath it all it is because I am no longer arm candy, I have gained some weight (stopped smoking and hystorectomy) and have many more wrinkles. He hasn’t got a wrinkle. I stuck with him when he had very little money, but now he is rolling in the stuff because his ex died and he gets full pensions. He is tall and handsome and funny and generous and chivalrous and…I could go on and on.

Anyhow, I realized something that is blaring at me, finally after all these broken hearts.
First…He no longer wants to be with me, no matter how much that hurts, it is the truth. I can not make him want me, I can not make him love me, I can not make him come back. I think that is part of the heartbreak, knowing we are so helpless, knowing we have no control over the situation.

Second…I have heard the true meaning of the word “insanity” is “DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT” I am not insane. I must realize that false hopes of him coming back are ridiculous because even if he did come back, he would do the same thing again.

Third…Everyone here including me is saying how wonderful these guys were, but if they had any character at all, they would not have left us. They are good actors. They are good at getting what they want while they want it, but it is really all about them and what they want, not about us, and they are selfish, heartless and cruel without compassion if they could simply walk out on someone who loves them so deeply.

So my head is saying, “What do you want with him anyway? He is a creep. He is a control freak. He is selfish. He is cruel. He is not worth your tears. He is not worth one more minute of your time. Turn it off!!

But my stupid heart is still hurting. So to fix my heart I have to try to do things to make me happy, not him, but me. Now I know I don’t feel like it, but I’ve heard if you are really sad and you only make a smiling face, even though you don’t feel like smiling, that you will start to feel happier. So I am smiling through my tears.

And I decided to try to reach out to other people who are hurting and needy, probably a lot worse than me. That way I can stop feeling sorry for myself and see how well off I really am.

And someday I will be able to smile and know in my heart I was so much better off because he left me. After all, you can’t meet the real Mr. Right if you are with Mr. Wrong.

Good Luck and God Bless you all.

trinity October 10, 2009 at 9:34 am

My man turned out to be a hoarder and although he made a good living, he has lots of credit card debt. I have been married 2 times, first time really young and stupid, we were too young and he was just not interested in being married. The 2nd man was really great in many ways but was a secret pill addict. When we married and me and my two children moved him in him, life was so weird and uncomfortable, it took 15 years to figure it out and get away from him and his emotional abuse. I feel like I kind of ruined much of my kids childhoods. Now 5 years ago I met the most awesome, fun, interesting, devoted man, he great with our pets, can grow and cook anything, very nurturing and kind, he is just so great in so many ways. But he is a hoarder, it took me a while to figure out what was going on exactly, his very nice house is more and more crammed with really nice stuff and tons of golf and fishing stuff, which caused a great deal of debt (which I didn’t find out about for a while). I talked to him about it and it’s only gotten worse. I can’t live in dump, even if it’s a nice dump. I have read a lot about hoarding and it’s gets worse with age. We had wedding rings made and that’s when I choked. I have talked to him til I was blue in the face and he promised me anything. But what you see is what you get. I want to be the first love, the pills were first and now this stuff is first. I know all this and still I have a broken heart.

trinity October 10, 2009 at 9:39 am

And Mary, you are correct “INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT” My first and 2nd husbands were unavailable for different reasons and now this, I guess hoarding is a kind of addiction, he will grow accustomed to me and his “hobby” is already taking greater and greater importance in his life.

josh October 10, 2009 at 3:14 pm

Ms. Mary,

Thanks a lot for making me realize that i will never meet Mr. Right if i am w/ Mr. Wrong.

Kay October 13, 2009 at 8:44 pm

My lover “broke up” with me this weekend. As a married woman, of course I can’t really confide in anyone; no one knows and I’d be ashamed to tell. And in fact, I am ashamed and guilt-ridden and have been throughout the 18 months of the affair. But still I couldn’t break it off. I tried every other week it seems, but I just couldn’t stay away. I married young, and I realize now, that I never knew true passion, until I met this man. It was so much like a dream, like heaven. He told me early on that he wouldn’t allow himself to fall in love with me, but after several months he admitted that he was in love with me. He knew I loved him, and he thought that meant I should leave my husband of 20 years. I am not someone to act on impulse and I also thought maybe I was under the spell of infatuation. And, to confuse matters more, I still love my husband, although passion is lacking. So he would pressure me to leave my husband, and then I would try to end the affair, realizing that I was leading him on, holding him back from the world of available women, where he might find lasting love. As soon as he sensed me pulling away, he’d change his tune to “lets live for the moment, I have no expectations….” So I’d stay, and we’d “live for the moment” until again he started to feel like he wanted something more….and I’d try to let him go….and he’d come back to the “moment. ” We also did this dance, where we’d decide to end it, both firmly agreed, but that we’d still be friends, and then we’d hang out at his place, and almost always end up back in bed. Well, I guess he finally had enough of all this madness and very abruptly and rudely said it’s all over, no friendship especially, since that ruse always leads to sex with us.

I know I don’t deserve sympathy, but still my heart aches. That’s what brought me to this website. Trying my best to cope in secret. I still see him several times a week (work), and he is cordial but very, very distant. He looks so achingly beautiful to me, and it kills me to think how much I’ve hurt him, when really I tried my best just to love him. But then sometimes I feel angry, too. He was really into the sex, and he was quite the seducer, so while I wasn’t willing to leave a marriage for him, he definitely had a lot of good “moments” with me.

Though I miss him and still love him, I don’t want him back. I want to work on my marriage, and see if it’s meant to be. It’s funny, even if eventually I do get divorced, I’m not sure I want this man. Together we reached extreme heights of passion, but y’know what? I think this is because we both have rather unstable, dreamy personalities. Should it come down to the day to day work of maintaining a relationship, I’m not at all sure we’d make it. Well, thanks for listening to my rambling. My love is gone, I miss him, I’m left with endless guilt and my dark, dark secret….

tena October 13, 2009 at 11:18 pm

im glad i read these.. they helped me a great deal!!!!

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J. October 14, 2009 at 11:58 am

I have been in a marriage for 10 years (10 years next month). From the onset I didn’t realize that I was controlling her behavior. After many months of fighting and not seeing things in the same perspective and a blow up fight which I got physical. She told me that she was done. She later told me that she hasn’t been herself since the beginning of our relationship and that she has been afraid to be who she really was in front of me. This hurt badly. Since our split we’ve seen each other almost every day and I have slept at the house multiple times (separate rooms) for the kids and to help her out with prior scheduled things before all of this. We’ve talked and discussed everything. She still says that she loves me and that she isn’t sure what she wants. She doesn’t want to live like the way she’s lived for 10 years and that she wants to have her identity. I love her and my family greatly. I would do anything for them. But she is scared that I will become physical again. I am getting counseling to understand and control those behaviors. It seems that we take one step forward and I do something that moves us 3 steps back. I am trying to release control and give her space, but it is difficult to be married to someone for 10 years and wanting to be with that person all of the time and then a stop sign put in front of you asking you to stop being with them. I don’t know what to do. I know I need to work on me, but I need to come to terms that our marriage might truly be over. As much as I don’t want that to happen I am faced with that true fear. My marriage and my kids have been my life – I have never cheated or touched another woman. I have loved and given all I have to give to my children. I am very scared of losing both of these things that I cherish so much.

trinity October 15, 2009 at 9:57 am

For troubled marriages I would highly recommend Retrouvaille. It is a weekend retreat for seriously unhappy marriages. It’s like 3 years of great marriage counseling packed into one weekend. I sure never had any great marriage counseling. Many people are familiar with Marriage Encounter, I have been to both AND to marriage counseling. Retrouvaille is the real deal. It’s awesome. I went to all 3 with my ex, I didn’t know about his pill use and he never admitted to the pill use until he had a withdrawal seizure and then he started drinking and was not interested in getting clean, and so it didn’t work out. Marriage Encounter to me was pretty lame.
But in my Retrouvaille group there were several couples living apart and one couple that had filed for divorce and 99% reconciled and were so happy together and so happy they did this retreat. Unfortunately it didn’t work out for me. But it did help me figure things out in the long run.
http://www.retrouvaille.org/ I am not advertising this at all but this is the site.

mouse October 15, 2009 at 1:08 pm

to Kay: I can so relate to everything in your comments. I too am a married woman of some 25+ years and my affair with the man of my dreams has recently come to an end. We do see each other through work and I miss him dreadly and would give anything to get back with him. I married young – have had and brought up my children and even though not financially a good idea I would so much like to be with this ‘new’ man. Our affair lasted 18 months and he wants to have a full relationship with someone and not have to wait around for me. I’m absolutely devastated. I fully understand your secret and how we can’t confide in anyone. I do text my ‘lover’ quite often for this reason and explain to him that I have nobody to talk to and need so much his friendship which he is happy with but I still can’t feel that special closeness we had. I feel I am losing him – he says things have changed between us – but that really is only since he met someone else – who is available. He was in her bed as quick as a flash – I know because he sent me a text in error – saying he couldn’t wait to spend a night with her without having to get up at 4/5am – I was so gutted he moved on within days. The pain in my heart is well and truly still there – even after 8 weeks! I can’t help when I see him wanting to throw my arms round him but feel he is stand-offish and doesn’t want me to get close. Its horrible not having that closeness – I just want a few cuddles to help me along the way. I hope you are okay? I have found the last 8 weeks really difficult especially when at home and trying to hide the tears away. Would like to hear from you and how you are coping? Please keep in touch – I think we have a lot in common xxx

Kay October 15, 2009 at 8:37 pm

Mouse: I’m glad my sharing helped you. You helped me to with your story, too. It’s only been six days since my lover ended it. I’ve cried every day, and then I was seized with the fear that I have a serious illness and will die. I truly felt my life was over, literally and figuratively. But I think it’s just heartburn from the stress. Strange how the heart hurts even physically over lost love. So guess what? My lover called me this morning and wants to get together and talk, which we’ll do tomorrow. He said he realized it wasn’t fair to have ended it so abruptly. I’ve got a lot of mixed feelings about this. I’m scared of all the strong feelings and pain this meeting will bring up, but I’m also relieved he doesn’t hate me. I’ve read this website section on “No contact,” but I think this will help me have closure.

Mouse, I totally understand how you want him to cuddle and comfort you, even just as a friend. I’ve clung to my lover after (the many times) we decided to just be friends because he was the only one who knows my secret and doesn’t judge me. Somehow, as long as I kept up close contact with him, I was protected from the wave of guilt for my infidelity and from having to really be present in the relationship with my husband. So I clung to him, I said just hold me. But that always led us back to sex, so I know now that I can’t rely on him to get me through the emotional turmoil of the aftermath of the affair. It will only keep the affair going. We’ve resolved to end it so many times, and then gone back to it, then “ended” it again, and each time we “end it” it gets more painful. I know we both have to just let each other go. I don’t want to lie to my husband anymore, and I don’t want to hold my lover back. He’s 40 (I’m 46) and he’s never been married. I know he longs for an open and honest and committed relationship, and I just can’t give that to him.

This time his ending it seemed much more final than ever before. He was angry and said he would say hi to me, but that was it as far as contact. So it surprised me that six days later he wants to talk. I think he genuinely does just want to be kind, and to have us part in a gentler way. But I am going to be very cautious, because maybe he’s feeling lonely, and maybe he’ll think, oh, it’ll be okay if we just hold each other…then we’re right back in it again, and the inevitable next “break up” will be even more painful. It’s gonna hurt, really hurt, to really let my love go, but I know I have to.

Mouse, I hope you find some peace soon. Keep writing. It helps to write, and because you and I are in a similar situation, I know your sharing will help me, too. I will say a prayer for you. And for all of us with broken hearts.

Thobile October 18, 2009 at 11:18 pm

I have been through bad breakups with men.I have cried everytime i got hurt.the sad part is the tears wont cum out nw i wana cry i wana feel beter.Crying heals my heart and heals my soal i have no more tears for man.I AM GOING 2 GET THROUGH THIS

sandra October 20, 2009 at 8:24 am

OMG…I thought I was the only one with a conniving, deceiving selfish man that I thought was WONDERFUL…
I thought i had finally found the one! yes, I am married, 2 ships passing in the night kind of thing,
and this WONDERFUL man stole my heart for 8 years, only to ditch me for a new love and blaming me
for it all. Of course, nothing was his responsibility. I am trying to rebuild my life but I am pathetic
about it, cant stop thinking about him, wonder why he doesnt want to see how i am, crying, having
a hard time putting one foot in front of the other, etc. It is just somewhat comforting to know
i am not the only dumb dumb out here to have this situation.

Steve October 20, 2009 at 11:20 am

Even still I tell myself, what a wonderful gift I was given. To see the abundance of love I was able to share. But once again, I found a person to damaged to recieve my gift in return. And I knew this going in. I’m a rescuer!! I desire to be loved so much that I turn a blind eye to what I know. Even to how I feel. “She doesn’t mean that”. “Shes been misunderstood, I’ll be the one to love her unconditionally “. I’ll have a good day followed by 3 bad days. Drag myself to work, reluctant to talk to someone that might ask “How I feel”. Sure, there are people apropriate for these matters, just not anyone and not all the time. Because I could go there. You have to feel it to heal it. I’ve been feeling it. I’m tired. I’m done. Move on already I tell myself. She’s not going to call or stop by to say “Im sorry”. We weren’t a good match, but my heart doesn’t know that. I’m not here to find fault with her but to release me from this bondage I placed upon myself. I need to forgive myself. To love myself.

sandy October 25, 2009 at 7:10 am

Karolynn, your situation is very similar to mine. I fell in love with a much older man who became very critical of me and my children through our almost two year relationship. He finally dropped me for someone else. A few weeks later he wanted “his life back” with me. It lasted ten days and he went back to her in just three days after we broke up again.(If he ever left her) I didn’t want the break-up because my life centered around him and I so deeply loved him. I found myself telling everyone what a great man he was and how good he was to me even though he left me for another woman, TWICE!!!. As time passed I started accepting his actions for what they were. I knew that I didn’t deserve being picked up and thrown down like I didn’t have any feelings at all. The best thing we can do is learn from this and start loving ourselves more than we do the men in our lives. God Bless!

sapphire October 25, 2009 at 7:40 am

I just want to thank you all for your articulate and interesting stories. They have really helped. Here’s mine, and I hope someone can see their own story in it and feel a little less alone.

I met him online, a little over a year ago. We clicked. Same sense of humor, same political slant, life views etc. I was stunned by how well we understood each other, it was a revelation. We had a great time email and chatting, and when we met up in person. I fell in love. I felt unable to tell him, as we had previously discussed his ex-wife, problems with relationships etc. As great as he is, he’s not the most stable of people. I knew that. I was worried that if I confessed my feelings he would run away. But as we talked, it became clear he felt something similar for me, and eventually I couldn’t talk the rollercoaster anymore, and told him.

After a day of silence, he finally replied, saying that he felt the same way, that he recognized the chemistry between us, but that he couldn’t “do” relationships. He wanted me as a friend because he always messed relationships up. I could see the sense in what he was saying, but I was devastated. I mean REALLY heartbroken. I’ve never been so emotionally wrecked before. I took time off work, didn’t leave the house for days. I wanted him so much, we connected so deeply- as he himself said.

Eventually I sucked it all up and said OK, we’ll just be friends. He replied that he wanted me in his life and would be around for years. He said he loved me. I glowed, I simply glowed with happiness. But things were never the same. I couldn’t let go of my feelings, and we were in this really weird non-relationship, where we were so close but not partners. Where he’d call me beautiful and I’d say I loved him, we were friends but obviously more than friends.

Eventually I just took it too far for him. I was too emotional, I hadn’t let go. He cut me off. He literally said, that’s it. Goodbye. No more contact. The old fear of commitment. It was okay as long as we maintained the veneer of friendship over what was clearly a relationship, but the second I got serious, he ran.

This is the first broken heart I’ve had. I’m in my thirties, and I’ve never known pain like this. I knew, he told me, that he cannot “do” relationships. Perhaps he was trying to tell me just not with me, I don’t know. So I have no excuse. I just couldn’t help it. What do you do, what do you do when that person is gone? The one you shared everything with? The one who was always there, the one who supported you, made you feel good about yourself? He encouraged me in everything I did, made me believe in my talents, helped me when I was low. Jesus, I miss him. I feel like I wrecked everything by loving him. He was clear what he wanted, what he needed. I should have gone.

This site, and the comments here, have made me feel so much better. There are lots of us feeling this way- like life will never be the same again. And hopefully, it won’t. Hopefully I’ll be a bit smarter and less emotional next time. Right now I just want him back- my rock, my confidante, my friend, my sweetheart. Like Steve who’s commented on this page, I am a rescuer. I thought I could be “the one” who would love him unconditionally, despite how messed up he is and his own, confessed inability to feel properly.

I still hope that one day we’ll be friends again. A stupid and false hope, but right now it’s what’s keeping me going. Here’s what I think: I met him. People like him exist. If there’s one person like that, there are others, and some of them aren’t quite so fucked up as him. I’ll meet someone with similar qualities who’ll want me like I want them. In a way I’m grateful he cut me loose like that, he was doing the right thing, even if the execution was poor.

I love him, I miss him, I’m crying for what I’ve lost. All of you out there in pain- you’re not alone. ((HUGS))

Mary October 25, 2009 at 10:55 am

Sapphire, I hear you and I know where you are coming from. But I am also older, and have been through a broken heart more than once and I feel I might have some wisdom for you.
I know this will be hard to digest, but I believe it is the truth, and sometimes, truth hurts.
This man who says he cannot “do relationships” is a user in the worst sense of the word. You think he is so wonderful, but he is not!! Firstly, if he really was so wonderful he would not play with your emotions the way he is and has done. He is getting off on having women fall in love with this image he is projecting, then keeping them at arm’s length. It’s like showing a starving woman a banquet and then keeping her away from it with clear glass. You can press your face into the glass but you cannot ever have it. And he is sadistic in doing this to you. There is really something seriously wrong with this man. He wants to feel loved and wanted and gets off by hurting the ones who love him. I don’t think you are alone, I think there are many women he has met online and is pulling the same stunt on them.
Save yourself for a real man with real emotions who will treasure your love and love you back equally. Don’t waste your mental energy wanting a “friendship” with this creep, and that is what he is, a creep to do what he has done to you. He will do it again if you keep showing him you are a willing victim. I know this is hard to read, but I know of what I speak. Please, get over him, don’t pine for him, you can never have him. He is plastic. I’ll bet what he told you his likes, etc. that are so similar to your likes are not real either. Don’t feed this sick ego anymore. Dry your eyes and move on and never forget this bad experience so you will not be fooled again.

bing October 26, 2009 at 11:57 pm

hmmm…
i dont know if this sharing my pain or just want to tell my stories to get some reactions and help me to move on…

were good and close friend for more than a year, constant textmate (sms) chatmate, and my crying shoulder as well..like in a friendship we have also a fight but a silent fight we dont have serious fight, but at the end of this fight we still remain friends a very close friend..

on my side, i thought my feeling is just a love for a friend, but one day i realize that ILOVE this man, but my brain certainly will not agree to this feelings..yes,,certainly will not agree of the idea that i fall to this guy, because this guy, my friend is married guy and he is not separated…even a single day to his wife (hope u get me)..but this feeling i keep it and dig in on my heart that nobody will know except me and GOD because its not right..but this feeling has been getting deeper because of the friendship we shared..so i decided to stay away from him, have a distance and not to be closed to him, stop the feelings i have because it will not help me and hurt me at the end.
and he noticed that, he ask me why im stay away from him….whats wrong? i cannot answer him because it will end up our friendship which i value so much, i keep distance to fix my self but he keep coming and closer to me..then i decided to continue my friendship with him and keep my feelings a secret, and try to focus to other guy and other things and keep telling to myself this guy is a married man and he will not ever love me and only friendship he can give…

but my courage and faith has been tested, one day he just tell me he likes me and he loves me…he tells me also his been trying to stop this feeling to the point he is mad to hiself…and now he cannot be able to stop this feeling he dont care if i like him or not, at least he already to tell his feelings..

when he tells that, i dont know what to do, i know the right thing…but i gave myself an options..option 1 – turndown his feelings even though ilove him becasue he is married man, and expect u will loose him as your friend also…you will hurt and someday u will find the right guy… or
opiotn 2 – tell him u love him too, have a secret affair with him make your days happy, life is short, chance to be happy is too small, grab the opportunity, if u will end up one day it means ur not meant to be and at least u been happy for a shortwhile..be ready to face the world of being mistress..and you show the love to the man u love for a long time….

u know what i choose? Option 2…but i promised to myself that his family will not be broken,,,i did this because ilovehim and want to be happy even a shortwhile and i promise not to expect anything or dream for future for us because i know from the start theres no future for us…

it was a simple relationship, everyday were happy, he show me that he love me so much he care for me..and i felt that..sometimes i feel guilty because i cannot show him how much ilovehim, because im hessitant to show because im afraid somebody will see us..

but one day when we went to our vacationit my chance to show how much ilove him and i did that but someone saw us…and i see him how he is not comfortable on that..he thinks a lot and to the points he tells me what to do if someone ask about ask…then i was hurt because it is a simple answer for that case dont bother them and if they ask we can tel that we were with our friends…simple as that…

at that moment i realize that this man is not ready for this kind of relationship and this make me realized that i didnt kept my promise not to think for future…pass days gone, i thought i will not bother of this kind of feelings but i found myself that im jealouse to his family, im eager to know about his wife, and totally hurt if i found out that he just want to make up with his daughter for the missing days because of me and have a feeling i want to stay with him 24/7…..which result to being a stubborn girlfriend, make a story to make him jealouse and be jealouse to nothing, ask for the break up etc…to fed up on me…which is i hate myself…becasue it hurts me more…

and one day, i do the initiative, i initiate the break up, create reasons which is not true, use the other things that i know i can handle but tell to him i cannot handle anymore, tell him the opposite side of the story and used her wife and daughter to realize everything that u must agree on this break up…eventhough the truth is i really love him..which i succeed to my plan…he agree on my breakup..same reason he tells me…therefore our breakup it is MUTUAL…

i thought it will be ok for us..but i found out that i didnt loose him as my boyfriend but also a friend of mine that i care for more than a year…i loose my crying shoulder…and the worst things he make me feel that he dont want me as a friend anymore, he make me feel that dont even try to reach him and he dont like me anymore…which is very difficult for me to understant because i thought it is mutual and for our betterment and why u do this to me..i keep asking to myself and to him that “is that easy for you to replace the LOVE with anger?”…even though he didnt say that i already feel and saw that…

sometimes i want to tell him that i was hurt more than he know…i regret for initiating the break up, for messing up the relationship, and beg him to give me another chance and continue the ralationship…and i still lovehim…but i didnt do that because it is the right thing not to tell him this things and for sure he will not believe anymore…

now, how can u heal a broken heart? a heart who lost his man because he needs to loose this guy, forcing herself to stop the relationship, forcing herself not to love him anymore, forcing herself to understand why this guy ending up on this kind of treatment towards her —–because i intiate the break up and do some mess things to our relationship so i deserve this and try to understand u loose ur dear friend…

most of my sad moments for the past few weeks..i felt regretful, sometimes i want to be mad or felt the anger for him so that i can easily move on and bare the hurts but how can i do that, everytime i reminish all bad treatment he done, stay away from me, showing he can have a lot of girls around him it will end up that i will tell my self “because you intiate the break up if dont do that ur still together and have a happy relationship…

already accept that we cannot be able to continue the relationship but my heart still aching and struggling for everyday pain…

JohnB October 27, 2009 at 8:29 am

Well it’s 4 months now since she’s gone. I still can’t concentrate, I still feel empty, and I still don’t understand why she’s gone away. I love her still. I tried to talk to her. She told me I was the best man in the world but she couldn’t be with me and it’s over now. Then she cried. It’s almost impossible to even talk to her on the phone now – she just blocks off and hangs up. I don’t know what to do. I’m so in love with her. I’ll loose my job is I keep in this dissociated state. I wish to God something could happen to make her change her mind. I am so in love with her. I can;t concentrate at work – I just feel numb – I sit in front of my computer and just can’t concentrate on anything. The pain just doesn’t end.

JohnB August 10, 2009 at 2:47 am
Hello,

well it’s happened to me to. I had a perfect relationship. I was so happy. I’m 37 and she is 31. We had great intimate life, absolutely amazing. We laughed, we cuddled, everybody was jealous of our happiness. I loved her to bits. She was so pretty – I always thought it was too good to be true that such a lovely woman could ever love me. I had been with her for 4 years. The last 2 years I drank one glass of wine extra instead of doing sport and exercise. I think the stgress from job was getting to me and I was a bit grumpy. Despite this, everything continued to be great. All through June we were having a great time, as usual. Laughing, loving couple. On 1st July she called me. She told me she was moving out of my flat. She told me she loved me but she couldn’t live with me. I immeidiately stopped working too much, gave up alcohol, started doing sport – but it’s too late. She doesn’t want the contact. She wants me to repect her decision. It’s as if I’ve been dropped like a stone. I love her so much. I’ve been crying every day for the last 6 weeks – and that a grown man of 37. I don’t undertstand that she says she loves me but it’s over. I wonder what she wants to find now. I wrote her a letter saying that my intentions are to marry her, have kids and love her til I die. She just doesn’t want me anymore. She’s dropped me like a stone. I think all I can do now is follow John’s advice: improve myself, work less, tell her that I;m here for her if she wants me, but then break off all contact and try and get on with life. God it hurts. I just can’t describe the pain. I cry and do mad things. I wish this was a nightmare but it’s not – it’s real life. I think it’s worse than if somebody dies – because she hasn’t died – she’s actually chosen that she doesn’t want to be in my life anymore. She’s told me she doesn’t want to me with me anymore: but she says she loves me. It’s awful. Life’s not fair – that’s is exactly the point. Nobody said it would be fair. Life is unfair, cold and tough. If she dropped me like a stone like this how can I ever feel safe to trust anyone again? I’m 37 now – it means if I get over this in 2 years I’ll be 39. I just wanted to have a family with her and grow old. I’m really heart broken.

John

troise October 27, 2009 at 3:27 pm

Reading everything in your post I am feeling, it is as if you were in my relationship…like looking into a mirror. I can’t find the words to express to you how much I feel what you are going through and how it frightens me that this sick, emptiness wont ever go away. The saying ‘you reap what you sow’ seems so unjust and cruel. You put everything in and get a bucketfull of hurt back.

I cant concentrate either, its like I am consumed by him, desperate to understand him, understand why he did what he did, try and make sense of it and that’s what drives you mad……no answers and no closure. Why oh why did god give us such intense emotions. xx

sapphire October 28, 2009 at 7:02 pm

Mary, thank you so much for your response. I do tend to blame myself for things and was pretty low when I wrote that. It’s good to get an outsider’s perspective. In truth I am more angry with him than I let on. I wish he’d been mature about this rather than running away like a scared little boy. I’d like him to face up to what he’s done rather than hiding from it. But the anger is getting less every day. What’s the point?

Mary: “I don’t think you are alone, I think there are many women he has met online and is pulling the same stunt on them.”

He speaks to a LOT of people online, I suspect one or two will go, or have gone, the same direction. But I honestly don’t think it’s deliberate. I know him well enough to know he’s just a total dolt when it comes to feelings.

Mary: “There is really something seriously wrong with this man.”

Yes, there is. He had a super-messed up childhood and a tumultuous adult life, and now has a couple of life-threatening medical conditions (YES, that is true. I’ve seen the medical bills, test results etc, and sent mutual friends to visit him in hospital- he’s in another country to me). In spite of this he is a warm-hearted person and very funny. I really wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression of him. Things I know for certain are true- he volunteered with a orphanage charity, he is currently setting up a disaster-relief programme in flood-affected areas in the country he now lives in, he regularly feeds and gives basic medical attention to stray animals in the area where he lives. The guy is not a bad person, nor does he *intend* any harm. He’s just emotionally illiterate. Broken.
Yeah, cutting me out was a callous and cruel thing to do. I think he was wrong to do it, I was angry and deeply deeply hurt. But I do understand that emotion scares him, and I am an intensely emotional person. So. It wasn’t going to work, I guess.

Luckily for me I’m a quick healer. One good thing about primarily internet-based relationships is that your whole life isn’t turned upside-down when they end. I’m still here, in my house with my job and my friends. I’m just missing the contact with someone I cared about greatly.

But anyway, it is over and that is for the best. I will reiterate the message you gave me: if they say they “don’t do relationships”- run. It’s just not worth it, sisters. :(

jon October 29, 2009 at 10:22 am

Love hit me like a brick in the face. I thought i knew what it was until i saw her. And it was mutual. We could spend an entire day laying together in bed, doing absolutly nothing but cherishing each other. She changed my life. She changed ME. I learned gentleness, compassion, and unconditional godly love from her. The relationsihp was only for a year. For the majority of it, it was long distance. We decided to move in together, and soon after, we were disrespecting each other uncontrollably. Its almost like we began hating each other. We both tried to change the course it was taking, but eventually, she gathered enough strength to move out. I couldnt continue living there due to the pain and lack of funds. I lost the love of my life, and my home in a matter of hours. We’ve talked once on the phone since. We both love each other to death. We cried on the phone to each other. We both wanted to make this work. We’re both so wrapped up with emotions that we agreed to leave each other alone for atleast a little bit. She told me to call her if i wanted. We dont konw what will happen with this relationship, or with ourselves. We’re both young. And have shared the most beautiful moments together I cant even explain in words here. My heart tells me to keep fighting, keep fighting. But I’ve been fighting since the begginning, and I feel myself slowly falling apart. I feel beaten by this invisible force that surrounds me and winds itself through me. She’s in deep pain, as I. When we talked on the phone, i know it made us both feel better just hearing each others voice. My legs have been kicked out from under me, and now im on my ass. She gave me the strength. The strength to keep living when I was deeply depressed and thoughts of suicide ran through my head every second of the day. The strength to atleast try to become independently stable. The strength to try to hold down a steady shitty job. She’s saved my life, and she doesnt even know it. She was my good thing in the face of darkness. I’m fighting the darkness once again. Something in my life must change dramaticlaly. But before i can find out what, I must find out whether our paths split here, or what. I can close my eyes and still look into her eyes and see every beauty the world has to offer. what now…

paula October 31, 2009 at 5:35 am

oh am I stupid. Just yesterday I got smart. I finally ended it with a guy that after 8 months couldnt tell me he loved me and HE DIDNT KNOW WHY well, Im not Einstein but I KNOW why…because HE didnt. THat is heart wrenching enough. I dont even know if I spelled Enstein correctly and IM A TEACHER> all thoughts are in a disarray at this point. I dont care if I have a typo so you know IM struggling. We were together 8 months and I would ease it in, Honey…love you!! and there was that SILENCE>>>>do you know the one?? ANyone???? Or he would say…You are so sweet! Well, this chick just got UNSWEET….enough was enough. I have taken all the crap over my disabled son Im going to take and yesterday he (beat around the bush and NOT mine, might I add) that he wanted a long term relationship and he sees me in a care taker role…what a jerk. OOOh…….
I said…Im done with this. I know I was impulsive but you know what…..I have been thinking of this everyday and thinking…he ll come around and love me and the kids eventually..Ill TEACH him to love…..nope I just feel so stupid. Loved him and his kids and family and what did I get??????? Forgotten no doubt. I hurt but IM mad so I will make it…..just get mad everyone that seems to help and it is normal…just dont hurt yourself or anyone else….it wll soon pass…
Jon…dear….hang in there. The problem was the LONG distance part, I think. It will get better.
Paula

Mary October 31, 2009 at 5:49 am

Oh Paula, My heart goes out to you. What you need in your life is a man who knows how to love, really love, not only you but your son too. Some men see love as having all their physical and emotional needs met. By saying he sees you as a “caregiver” I have a feeling he wants a woman who will be a caregiver only to him. This is the epitamy of selfishness. You deserve better and you will find it too. Hang in there girl, let yourself heal, hold your head high and learn to laugh again. Then you will be attracting the right kind of man. And whatever you do, don’t let this guy “beat around (your) bush” again. Just keep reminding yourself you are better off without him. Save your love for someone who deserves it and someone who has the capacity to return it.

sapphire October 31, 2009 at 7:49 pm

Jon…wow. I feel ya.

Take that break from each other. Really. It does the world of good. I don’t know, I feel more philosophical by the day. There are no absolutes in life, ya know? It didn’t work out this time, but if you meet up again in a year, or five, you’ll both have grown, and maybe it’ll work. If you take that time out, you may find you don’t want it anymore.

Not sure why I am giving advice, I’m just another sucker for love. I just feel very strongly that if you’re both still in love, take that break and see it as a positive thing. If you’re both there at the end of it, you have something, you know? If it all falls apart again, at least you tried. It wasn’t to be. Good luck.

paula November 1, 2009 at 6:05 am

Hi Mary,
thanks so much for your kind words. It has been hard to let go of whatever we had. He wanted to “talk” yesterday and the the whole message I got was that he wants someone that can just pick up and go and do and with my son needing constant care and my teenage daughter needing me (16 years old) I just cant do that. I have to stay strong. I do want to heal and move forward and not hurt. He says how much he loves me now but the question is, do you care for my son and he doesnt.
Tyler is so sweet with Down SYndrome and Autism. However when he is around Mike he acts up, cusses and calls him an asshole. Maybe he isnt the delayed one, but its me!! lol
Thanks again.
Paula

ReNea November 4, 2009 at 6:15 pm

I think I may have been played…. 7 months into a long distance relationship, known each other for 4 years, and tells me he loves me dearly & his feeling grow stronger for me everyday. Then says in the same breath, but i don’t know what I want so if you meet someone else, don’t wait for me. I have loved this man for 4 years and felt like it was FATE that we both were single at the same time. I feel like I have been kicked in the stomach. How could he NOT love me & want me forever? Flew back home this weekend & not even a phone call/text from him after that talk. Nice way to love someone. Don’t feel bad guys/girls.. I flew out to him 3 times on MY dime..paid for everything..washed his dishes…bent over backwards to please him..bought gifts… to receive nothing in return. Pathetic.

Kay November 5, 2009 at 8:26 am

Seems I’m finally out of this affair. He’s been alternately hot and cold to me, one week saying you’re such a close friend, I don’t want to lose our friendship, then getting all moody and angry about nothing and freezing me out again. I know he’s hurt I didn’t leave my husband for him, but seeing his behavior now, I thank God that I didn’t and I truly regret this affair. I thought maybe I’d finally found true love and would get divorced and start a wonderful new life. Funny what a little conflict and distance can do for your perspective. This man has serious mental health problems. I don’t think I’ve ever known any adult (he’s 40) quite so immature, self-centered and judgmental. To be his girlfriend or wife would be misery. My husband and I have a lot of problems and pain to work through now, but I know deep down that my husband is a good man. I can’t say I’m a good woman after what I’ve done, but still God had mercy on me and has granted me another chance to make things right.

ANGIE November 5, 2009 at 10:37 pm

I HAVE GONE THROUGH SIMILAR SITUATION I MET A YOUNER GUY 5 YEARS. THROUGH A FRIEND AFTER DATING HIM FOR 2 1/2 years i find out he is married. he was always with me on weekends and during the week im so hurt.
why did she not question him ? how was he able to cover up the fact that he was living a double life ?

trinity November 6, 2009 at 2:54 am

Kay, I hate to admit this, but I was pretty unhappily married (for several immature reasons), got very attached emotionally to a guy at work. Ended up having an affair, immediately leaving my husband (because I was much to honest to have a affair!) and marrying this guy. Ruined everyone’s life esp my kids. Divorce doesn’t solve problems, it creates new ones. Except the divorce from my affair man, that solved ALOT of problems. Anyway, if I had put the effort into my 1st that I put into the 2nd, we might (MIGHT) be Couple of the Year every year since. But live and learn.

Jason November 6, 2009 at 10:01 am

i cant escape it. it follors me everywhere I go, the thought of him that is. I think of him being happier and better off than me and it kills me inside. I feel so low and rejected. The thing is that I actually have a great self-confidence and know that I’m a good catch. I’m actually a better catch than he is. I hadnt spoken to him in months because of my choice. I never wanted to see him again because i disliked him as a person, and had noo attraction towards him whatsoever. I was even embaressed to have had anything with him. But its not until recently that I found out he wants no more to do with me and it broke me. In so many ways. How does this happen? That I can go from avoiding his calls to not have to see him to being on the floor bawling because he doesnt want anything to do with me anymore? Now after him not being in my thoughts he’s all I think about. So often, I have to step out of class to breathe. I can’t get the thoughts out of my head. I’ll wake up in the mornings fine for the most part, but then it’s like I remind myself to think about it until i remember why the hell it hurts so much. My biggest fear is that something could happen to me that could permanently change my way of being. I don’t want this to make me someone who is always miserable, or grow to be an angry lonely old man but I really can’t see things getting better. I can’t even eat, and always feel like throwing up. Nothing seems like fun to me and I can’t help but wonder what he’s thinking. Thinking that if he might miss me..then there’s still hope to fix things. When I know that if i do get him back, im going to get tired of him later because I dislike him as a person and everything he is. I’m so fucked and these tips are easier read than done. I can’t go online without thinking of him and I’m tired of feeling this way. It’s taking an extreme toll on my life. Does anyone want to talk? u can email me if u want. @ jasdon4@hotmail.com
I could really use someone to talk to =/

donella hines November 6, 2009 at 10:09 am

I will give this a try and see what happens. It won’t hurt to try.

ouch November 10, 2009 at 8:52 am

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. It’s nice to feel so alone in this horrible place. The loneliness of empty hours that used to be spent with him is suffocating. Hearing others in the same boat is helping me to realize that there may not be a good explanation for what happened – people make choices. My job now is to take care of myself and get through to the other side of this nightmare.

Tanya November 11, 2009 at 12:55 am

Every day I get stronger. I finally feel like I am gaining some ground, Independence first then everything will fall into place.

rosemary1213 November 11, 2009 at 11:54 am

He broke up with me on September 30 and I did not follow any of the advice I received from friends about not contacting him. I never felt closure because of the way he broke up with me. I contacted him several times over the last 42 days and my anger and fear caused me to say things that I regret. My last conversation with him was ths past Saturday. He told me that I had poisoned anything he ever felt for me with all of the cruel things I said to him since he left me. That’s his soul sickness. I have no bad feelings towards him. He just wasn’t that into me, I guess. I do miss his friendship, but I know that it will be a long time, if ever, that he and I are friends.

I signed the pact not to contact him, but I loaned him $2,500 and he is paying me back each month. Each time the check comes and I see his name, it’s like the wound is torn open again. He does not have the means to pay me back in full and I promised to mail him receipts, but I am not going to do anything for at least 30 days. I trusted him enough to loan it to him and he can trust that I received it. I am just going to try to be grateful he is paying it back.

From the little he told me on Saturday, he is going through a major crisis with his only son and in the time we were together I became close to his son. I was worried and throught about how I could get more information and called him again yesterday. He did not call me back and has asked me several times to let him go. Now I realize that I do not need to drag his drama into my life.

I did follow the other instructions…joined a gym and I’m there 3 or 4 times a week. I always wanted to learn to play golf, so I am taking lessons. There is so much more I want to do. I can’t date yet, because I am carrying so much baggage.

Learned to ride a motorcycle a few years ago after another breakup and I love that. My bike was down the last month but I just had it fixed. Planning on riding this weekend. That was always my antidepressant.

Think I am coming out of it because I’m sleeping better, appetite is back and he is not the first thing I think about when I wake up in the morning. I can focus at work (thank God) and the physical pain I felt whenever I thought about him is subsiding.

It will just take time.

It will just take time.

Sarah November 12, 2009 at 5:27 am

It is simply just sad. But, as I learn and move forward with prayer, faith, and good friends I am doing better. I can’t really write about him or ‘us’ right now. It is too painful…too soon.

Kay November 14, 2009 at 12:15 am

Well perhaps it will be cathartic to summarize my story. Married 24 years, husband gambles among other things. Never wants to be with me, didn’t really spend time with our children, seemed to fight me and undermine our household every step of the way. Always a good provider. Then at year 21 or so, I met someone who pursued me. I wanted him but I could not betray my vows nor could I participate in him betraying his. I knew he just wanted a fling and I am not the fling kind but still, I fell. I left but it will be 2 years in December and I am still heartbroken. My marriage has continued to deteriorate. I don’t know where I stand but in my heart I am certain it is over. I go to school to gain skills for a new career, I work out, I do the best I can but it is not enough. I am lonely and I am sad in my heart. Yes I function and know really knows but…I need to heal.

Kay November 14, 2009 at 12:15 am

Well perhaps it will be cathartic to summarize my story. Married 24 years, husband gambles among other things. Never wants to be with me, didn’t really spend time with our children, seemed to fight me and undermine our household every step of the way. Always a good provider. Then at year 21 or so, I met someone who pursued me. I wanted him but I could not betray my vows nor could I participate in him betraying his. I knew he just wanted a fling and I am not the fling kind but still, I fell. I left but it will be 2 years in December and I am still heartbroken. My marriage has continued to deteriorate. I don’t know where I stand but in my heart I am certain it is over. I go to school to gain skills for a new career, I work out, I do the best I can but it is not enough. I am lonely and I am sad in my heart. Yes I function and know really knows but…I need to heal.

Kay November 14, 2009 at 12:15 am

Well perhaps it will be cathartic to summarize my story. Married 24 years, husband gambles among other things. Never wants to be with me, didn’t really spend time with our children, seemed to fight me and undermine our household every step of the way. Always a good provider. Then at year 21 or so, I met someone who pursued me. I wanted him but I could not betray my vows nor could I participate in him betraying his. I knew he just wanted a fling and I am not the fling kind but still, I fell. I left but it will be 2 years in December and I am still heartbroken. My marriage has continued to deteriorate. I don’t know where I stand but in my heart I am certain it is over. I go to school to gain skills for a new career, I work out, I do the best I can but it is not enough. I am lonely and I am sad in my heart. Yes I function and know onereally knows but…I need to heal.

N November 14, 2009 at 9:33 am

Hi everyone. I’m new to this site and just started working the steps. I’m actually very new to leaving comments as well and truthfully feel a bit silly and can’t imagine that anyone would take the time to read this, much less respond. I’m 25 years old and have just gone through a VERY fresh break-up with someone that I’ve been with on and off for almost 8 years. I’m not even sure that this is the right time for me to work on the steps, but I just needed some kind of distraction. I am in alot of pain and feel completely weak. My ex ended our relationship because he said that his feelings changed for me. He claimed that he still was in love with me but the “spark” wasn’t there anymore. Because there was no “spark” for him, it made him doubt our chances of making things work. I told him that if he’s having doubts at all, doesn’t that tell him something? Apparently, that gave him some food for thought because he realized I was right and ended things.Its hard enough being without him now but now I feel completely at fault. I can come to terms and rationalize losing my boyfriend, but I forgot that I’d also be losing my best friend. I’m at the end of my rope and can’t seem to see it getting any better.

Mary November 14, 2009 at 10:24 am

N…it sounds as if your boyfriend is having trouble with the transition between the initial “falling in love” and settling down into a deeper relationship. Of course the spark has died down. Do any reading on the matter at all and you will find out it is a physical impossibility for it to continue because those feelings of “being in LOVE” are caused by brain chemicals. It’s all part of the original attraction. I really think if he does indeed love you, he will realize it and come back. Love has so many faces and when it settles down, sometimes people think it has died. Not true. Just pray and realize that if he really does love you, it will be better than ever someday. And if he doesn’t, well then there will be someone else who will.

N November 14, 2009 at 10:44 am

Mary…thank you so much for your kind words and your insight. Do you think you could share your info with my ex?! j/k! I’m now trying my best to not call him and say all the things that haven’t been said. I’m not sure what would be healthiest for me, but right now my heart is winning out and I’ve been calling him regularly every hour. (so pathetic, I know!) I went to the trouble of changing my number thinking it would help me make a fresh start in letting go. Unfortunately, that did not work. My phone has the ability to block my number when I make outgoing calls, so I’ve been blocking my number and calling him nonstop. He’s done the smart thing and turned his phone off. I have not given him the new number. I realize that I won’t because I want to be able to rationalize him not calling me. He quite literally can’t call if he doesn’t have my number, right? So maybe he wants to call but obviously doesn’t have the ability to. I honestly can’t see how I’ll get through this. Writing this down just makes me feel crazy for the way my mind thinks. I don’t think I have the strength to let go and am not sure I ever will.

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